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Message  MurielB Jeu 17 Sep - 20:47

Notice the "Don't you dare".
Gérard I know that dare is a semi-modal but I wonder if " Dare you not" would be correct ?

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Message  gerardM Jeu 17 Sep - 21:23

Hi Muriel,
MurielB a écrit:
Notice the "Don't you dare".
Gérard I know that dare is a semi-modal but I wonder if " Dare you not" would be correct ?
I wrote "you" in bold...

To answer your question, I never heard nor read "dare you not" and I'm quite sure it is not correct.

I pointed out the "you" in "don't you dare".
The tense is an imperative.
The normal form for the 2nd person of imperative is "Dare"; for a negation it is "don't dare".
No "you" is needed.
An example is "Don't be cruel" sung by Elvis Presley Smile
Back to your question: "don't dare" and "don't be" are fine, "dare not" and "be not" are definitely incorrect, all the more so "dare you not" is incorrect.

Now, the "you" in "don't you dare" is unnecessary.
However, "don't you dare" is very usual in English.
Adding the "you" is a way to draw attention, to stress the you, to insist... it's an expression that could be translated into: "T'as pas intérêt...".

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Message  MurielB Jeu 17 Sep - 21:32

Thanks a lot Gérard !

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Message  gerardM Jeu 17 Sep - 22:45

You're welcome Muriel.
Do you agree with my words?

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Message  MurielB Jeu 17 Sep - 22:49

Gérard I would use "don't you dare !" it's natural for me
"don't dare ? " I don't think so !

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Message  gerardM Jeu 17 Sep - 23:06

MurielB a écrit:Gérard I would use "don't you dare !" it's natural for me
"don't dare ? " I don't think so !
Murieil,

In "don't you dare to come back.", there's no question mark, it's not a question but a command (an imperative).

The meaning is not: "n'oseras-tu pas revenir ?" but "je ne te conseille pas de revenir !"

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Message  gerardM Ven 18 Sep - 17:45


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Message  gerardM Ven 18 Sep - 17:52


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Message  gerardM Ven 18 Sep - 17:56

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Message  gerardM Ven 18 Sep - 19:32


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Message  gerardM Ven 18 Sep - 19:46

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Message  gerardM Ven 18 Sep - 19:52


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Message  gerardM Ven 18 Sep - 19:56


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Message  MurielB Ven 18 Sep - 21:23









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Yes it is like quantum physics. The thoughts are wavelike and can turn

 turn into the physical basis of our lives.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave%E2%80%93particle_duality
Wave–particle duality is the fact that every elementary particle or quantic entity exhibits the properties of not only particles, but also waves

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