Drones, robots, Cyborgs intelligent machines
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Re: Drones, robots, Cyborgs intelligent machines
Merci beaucoup Gérard pour ce très intéressant article. C'est vrai que l'on s'attache à un telephone, une voiture et c'est un peu comme un objet transitional
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objet_transitionnel
http://leplus.nouvelobs.com/contribution/1234003-avoir-un-doudou-quand-on-est-adulte-ce-n-est-ni-rare-ni-grave.html
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objet_transitionnel
Les adultes peuvent très bien en avoir car ils leur apportent du réconfort lorsque les êtres chers sont absentsUn objet transitionnel est un objet utilisé par un enfant à partir de l'âge de 4 mois pour représenter une présence rassurante (comme celle de la mère).
http://leplus.nouvelobs.com/contribution/1234003-avoir-un-doudou-quand-on-est-adulte-ce-n-est-ni-rare-ni-grave.html
Voilà à mon sens ce que sera l'attachement avec un robot familier mais cela est très different de la relation affective entre les êtres humains qui est nettement plus complexe.Chez l’adulte, le doudou a le même usage que chez l’enfant. C’est un objet transitionnel, un objet qui fait la transition entre le jour et la nuit. C’est un substitut parental, qui rappelle l’enfance et la sécurité. C’est pour cela que c’est rarement un objet neuf que l’on achète en magasin. C’est un objet qui a une histoire, un passif qui rassure.
Lutter contre la peur d’être seul
Le doudou nous permet d’affronter les enjeux de la nuit. Je m’explique.
Quand on grandit, on n’est pas crédible quand on dit qu’on a besoin de nos parents pour dormir. Alors on trouve autre chose, parce que la vérité, c’est qu’on a peur de la nuit. Et ce pour deux raisons.
La première, c’est la peur d’être seul. De perdre le contact avec l’autre, même si l’on dort dans le même lit. Le sommeil suscite une angoisse mortifère contre laquelle on lutte jusqu’au bout. Dans la bouche des enfants, « quelqu’un qui est mort, c’est quelqu’un qui dort toujours ». Le doudou permet alors d’affronter cette angoisse de mort.
Ensuite, c’est la peur d’affronter l’inconscient, sans le contrôle qu’on a dessus le jour (et le pouvoir qu’on a de décider de ne pas penser à nos problèmes).
Pendant la nuit, l’inconscient a le champ libre. Il n’y a rien pour vous protéger de vos problèmes, ou en tout cas pour vous empêcher d’y penser. Un enfant ne veut pas se coucher parce qu’il a peur de faire des cauchemars. Un adulte n’est pas pressé de se coucher parce qu’il a peur de retrouver ses angoisses, celles qu’il a reléguées toute la journée. Le doudou a alors vocation à ré-assurer avant de dormir.
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Re: Drones, robots, Cyborgs intelligent machines
Pour ma part, j'ai plein de doudous autour de moi : des photos, des mugs avec la photo de mes petites filles, de vieux objets anodins sans valeur autre que sentimentale qui me rappellent des vacances ici ou là, mes parents, etc.
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C'est vrai, Gérard, les objects ont une âme. Patrick refuse de mettre des tableaux chez nous qui ne sont pas lies à notre histoire. Je peux comprendre....En tout cas tu dois beaucoup les aimer tes petites filles !
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Muriel,
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Mais j'ai aussi des photos de choses que j'aime : posters de Sébastien Loeb et Daniel Elena avec leurs coupes, des photos de voitures Peugeot, des photos de montagne et randonnées, etc.
Soucieux, oui parfois (par exemple, le cours de bourse
)... mais je ne suis jamais triste dans la vie, grâce à tous ces "quotes positifs".
Les "doudous" sont nécessaires... à tous !
Objects ? Est-ce que tu parles avec l'accent British aussi ?MurielB a écrit:... les objects ont une âme.
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J'ai des objets de toute ma vie (pas alignés dans une vitrine mais ici ou là), des photos de mes enfants petits, des souvenirs de quelques moments heureux de ma vie.... tu dois beaucoup les aimer tes petites filles !
Mais j'ai aussi des photos de choses que j'aime : posters de Sébastien Loeb et Daniel Elena avec leurs coupes, des photos de voitures Peugeot, des photos de montagne et randonnées, etc.
Soucieux, oui parfois (par exemple, le cours de bourse
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Les "doudous" sont nécessaires... à tous !
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C'est vrai....Les "doudous" sont nécessaires... à tous !
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How to know if a robot is about to steal your job
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"We need to start thinking very seriously: What will humans do when machines can do almost everything?"
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How to know if a robot is about to steal your job
Data entry clerks, drivers, and warehouse workers most likely to lose
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"We need to start thinking very seriously: What will humans do when machines can do almost everything?"
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How to know if a robot is about to steal your job
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Don't worry ! Here are 6 jobs a machine will never replace
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/6-human-jobs-computers-will-never-replace/
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/6-human-jobs-computers-will-never-replace/
Creative Arts,Professional Sports,Healthcare & Médicine,Education,Quality Assurance,Politics and law
jobs that require an element of human behavior that computers cannot replicate: intuition, creativity, innovation, compassion, imagination, and so on. Those jobs will always be safe.
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I'm not that sure Muriel.
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Robots are very useful
http://www.west-info.eu/robots-will-teach-refugee-children-the-german-language/
I have just come across that very interesting article and I am sure we have already discussed about the interest of those tiny humanoid robots becoming german teachers but I can't find the post![Sad](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_sad.gif)
This additional assistance will be helpful and the children will integrate faster especially autistic children who are often confused by facial expressions and vocal inflections.
Anyway they will add fun to the language teaching.
Hi everyoneRefugee children could soon be learning German with the help of a tiny humanoid robot, thanks to a new project from researchers at the University of Bielefeld. Scientists plan to spend three years working on their plan to see whether the little androids make it easier for children to learning German.
I have just come across that very interesting article and I am sure we have already discussed about the interest of those tiny humanoid robots becoming german teachers but I can't find the post
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This additional assistance will be helpful and the children will integrate faster especially autistic children who are often confused by facial expressions and vocal inflections.
Anyway they will add fun to the language teaching.
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Hi Muriel,
I do hope Microsoft didn't participate in the program
otherwise learners will be mainly good at swearing.
I'm referring to recent events on Twitter were Microsoft was testing AI to discuss with members but they were hacked and the bot became able to only promote recism and terrible speeches - I wrote a harsh text against Microsoft on Facebook.
Organizations are too confident and naive. The experience will attract lots of hackers: too good an opportunity!![Wink](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_wink.gif)
I do hope Microsoft didn't participate in the program
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I'm referring to recent events on Twitter were Microsoft was testing AI to discuss with members but they were hacked and the bot became able to only promote recism and terrible speeches - I wrote a harsh text against Microsoft on Facebook.
Organizations are too confident and naive. The experience will attract lots of hackers: too good an opportunity!
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Are bots invading our lives?
Howdy.
This topic is open to discuss with Muriel who -as far as I know- doesn't like the idea of robots taking over humans.
Muriel, do you still have 12 points on your driving license?
I just lost 2 times 1 point as I drove to the mountains with my granddaughter... I'm worrying about next week: a new "Avis de contravention" might arrive in my letterbox
I had 12 points 2 weeks ago, never lost a single one: now I know what it is - craziness!!
![C\'est vrai!!](/users/1111/12/67/46/smiles/342816.gif)
This topic is open to discuss with Muriel who -as far as I know- doesn't like the idea of robots taking over humans.
Muriel, do you still have 12 points on your driving license?
I just lost 2 times 1 point as I drove to the mountains with my granddaughter... I'm worrying about next week: a new "Avis de contravention" might arrive in my letterbox
I had 12 points 2 weeks ago, never lost a single one: now I know what it is - craziness!!
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Re: Drones, robots, Cyborgs intelligent machines
Gérard I don't like when robots are fake human beings because we can't have an emotional relationship with them. They are just machines.
Any way as I am not Fangio, i wouldn't mind to have a driverless car which could drive me everywhere and do all my shoppings. I agree that this one is a bit too small and a bigger one would suit me perfectly. It is worrying when they take points off your driving license. I have just had my 12 points back and I want my driving license to stay as it is.
http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2016/12/07/delivery-robots-are-showing-up-on-city-sidewalks
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Any way as I am not Fangio, i wouldn't mind to have a driverless car which could drive me everywhere and do all my shoppings. I agree that this one is a bit too small and a bigger one would suit me perfectly. It is worrying when they take points off your driving license. I have just had my 12 points back and I want my driving license to stay as it is.
Designers of futuristic cityscapes envision delivery drones dropping off your packages from the sky and driverless cars taking you to work. But the robotic delivery invasion already has arrived in the form of machines that look like beer coolers on wheels scooting along the sidewalks.
http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2016/12/07/delivery-robots-are-showing-up-on-city-sidewalks
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Re: Drones, robots, Cyborgs intelligent machines
Muriel,
For distances under 10km, I was already walking, for higher distances, I will take the train.
Next summer, I guess I'll drive to the Alps with my granddaughter because we need all of her stuff.
Then later, I will give up with cars as on a distance of 1,500km I'm quite sure to get 4-5 fines or even lose my license: I will go by train and rent a car on site.
Imagine that I lost 1 point on Jan 22 at 120kph instead of 110... I didn't understand as I was on a freeway and I didn't see anything special: why 110 and not 130 on a freeway?? Go ask the bot!
I lost another point on Jan 29 at 73 instead of 70kph... in the outskirts of Grenoble where the bloody major instituted a limit of 70 on an urban freeway which is usually a 110kph road (I saw the signs).
I got mad!
For distances under 10km, I was already walking, for higher distances, I will take the train.
Next summer, I guess I'll drive to the Alps with my granddaughter because we need all of her stuff.
Then later, I will give up with cars as on a distance of 1,500km I'm quite sure to get 4-5 fines or even lose my license: I will go by train and rent a car on site.
Imagine that I lost 1 point on Jan 22 at 120kph instead of 110... I didn't understand as I was on a freeway and I didn't see anything special: why 110 and not 130 on a freeway?? Go ask the bot!
I lost another point on Jan 29 at 73 instead of 70kph... in the outskirts of Grenoble where the bloody major instituted a limit of 70 on an urban freeway which is usually a 110kph road (I saw the signs).
I got mad!
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It is very good when the bots work for us but it is not nice to deprived of human Relationships.
http://www.scienceofrelationships.com/home/2012/4/16/the-need-to-belong-part-of-what-makes-us-human.html
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http://www.scienceofrelationships.com/home/2012/4/16/the-need-to-belong-part-of-what-makes-us-human.html
people have a basic psychological need to feel closely connected to others, and that caring, affectionate bonds from close relationships are a major part of human behavior.
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Did you ask jobless people when you wrote this?MurielB a écrit:It is very good when the bots work for us...
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Gérard our society is evolving and I am conscious that AI and algorithms are present everywhere.
Anyway they cannot work without the humans. As i am in a medical environment I can give you the example in medecine.
I agree that as the world evolves, so do job trends. Some jobs will be eliminated but some are emerging. It is very important for young people to choose the right career if they don't want to be jobless.
Anyway they cannot work without the humans. As i am in a medical environment I can give you the example in medecine.
OK but the humans are not biological tests whatsoever. For instance people can have "Bad cholesterol" and be perfectly healthy because they have an enriching and satisfactory emotional life. Can a machine notice that ?Artificial intelligence (AI) in healthcare uses algorithms and software to approximate human cognition in the analysis of complex medical data
I agree that as the world evolves, so do job trends. Some jobs will be eliminated but some are emerging. It is very important for young people to choose the right career if they don't want to be jobless.
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This Is the World's Most Sophisticated Humanoid Robot
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Watch: This Is the World's Most Sophisticated Humanoid Robot
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Watch: This Is the World's Most Sophisticated Humanoid Robot
See new video footage of Erica, Japan's eerily human robot.
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congratualations it is a very fine achievement !
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Re: Drones, robots, Cyborgs intelligent machines
As you know there are oodles of very old people in Japan and they develop robots to address care of the elderly.
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Re: Drones, robots, Cyborgs intelligent machines
Don't you think it is very sad when just robots take care of the elderly !
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Re: Drones, robots, Cyborgs intelligent machines
Yes but better sad than nothing.MurielB a écrit:Don't you think it is very sad when just robots take care of the elderly !
It would useful in France as well because many elderly are lonely.
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Re: Drones, robots, Cyborgs intelligent machines
Gérard when I am very old I would prefer a cat or a dog which are living creatures to a machine, a fake human being. Do you know that in many elderly people's homes there are now dogs or cats around;
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Hawking: Creating AI Could Be the Biggest Event in the History of Our Civilization
Howdy.
Futurism
And it's not up to AI to decide.
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Hawking: Creating AI Could Be the Biggest Event in the History of Our Civilization
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Futurism
And it's not up to AI to decide.
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Hawking: Creating AI Could Be the Biggest Event in the History of Our Civilization
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Re: Drones, robots, Cyborgs intelligent machines
Muriel, the cat won't call a doctor ![Smile](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif)
Better to have both living beings and bots.
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Better to have both living beings and bots.
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