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Message  MurielB Jeu 27 Aoû - 22:30

When you bring up a child you have to

  1. let him choose for himself what he wants to do, what he wants to be (not cut his wings)
  2. and at the same time set limits because he is a social animal and he will have to live in harmony with the other human beings and his environment.

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Message  gerardM Ven 28 Aoû - 10:24

MurielB a écrit:When you bring up a child you have to

  1. let him choose for himself what he wants to do, what he wants to be (not cut their wings)
  2. and at the same time set limits because he is a social animal and he will have to live in harmony with the other human beings and his environment.

Muriel, "child" is not masculine.
Don't let believe Americans are sexist, Am women wouldn't permit it.

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Message  Admin Ven 28 Aoû - 10:44

Thanks Gérard!!
But what is the genre of "child"?
Is Muriel wrong?
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Message  MurielB Ven 28 Aoû - 12:16

Florent In France the masculine form takes precedence over the feminine form. It is not true in America because they are less sexist than we are. Instead of saying his child, i could have said "their children".
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When you bring up children you have to

  1. let them choose for themselves what they want to do, what they want to be (not cut their wings)

  2. and at the same time set limits because they are social animals and they will have to live in harmony with the other human beings and their environment.



Sorry Gérard and thanks for reminding  me !

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Message  Admin Ven 28 Aoû - 14:05

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Message  gerardM Ven 28 Aoû - 14:52

Florent,

As Muriel wrote it, Americans are very careful about this point. American ladies were "leading the country" during WWI, working in armaments plants and they demanded respect.
So there's no precedence of masculine over feminine. Americans don't use his or her unless it is obvious; instead there are several ways:
- he/she, him/her, his/her
- (s)he, him/her, his/her
- they created new pronouns but I forgot them (I posted this here 1 or 2 months ago)
- the most common method is to use the "plural" pronouns: they, them their.
Americans respect this point and it's a mistake to choose "he" (the French tend to make the mistake).

On the other hand, it's not true that English speaking people use neutral when there's no obvious gender.
If they usually use "it" for babies", they easily use "she" for things they like such as cats, dogs, cars, boats.
Except for human beings (sexism issue) Americans are very flexible about grammar (I mean the rules are not strict and they won't frawn). A consequence is that English speaking people won't point out the mistake but this will be a clue about your sexism.

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Message  gerardM Ven 19 Mai - 13:50

Howdy.

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How can we understand the mysterious idea of serendipity?



Harnessing Serendipity
Innovation is critical to sustained economic growth—and mathematics can help us understand how it works 
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Message  MurielB Sam 20 Mai - 20:57

Gérard for me is a bit like Jung's syncronicity
https://www.amazon.fr/Synchronicity-Connecting-Principle-C-Jung-ebook/dp/B00CDV19J0
To Jung, synchonicity is a meaningful coincidence in time, a psychic factor which is independant of space and time. This revolutionary concept of synchronicity both challenges and complements the physicist's classical view of casualty. It also forces is to a basic reconsideration of the meaning of chance, probability, coincidence and the singular events in our lives.

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Message  MurielB Mer 25 Avr - 16:47

Synchronicity: A meaningful coincidence of two or more events where something other than the probability of chance is involved.

– Carl Jung –

http://www.thinking-minds.net/carl-jung-synchronicity/
Jung believed that events may be connected by causality but also by meaning. If you want to know more about that concept please Watch the video



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Message  MurielB Mer 25 Avr - 17:04

https://carljungdepthpsychologysite.blog/2018/02/07/carl-jung-since-psyche-and-matter-are-contained-in-one-and-the-same-world/
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Message  MurielB Mer 25 Avr - 17:17

Hi everyone ! 
What Jung said is Strange but also very interesting. Life is very scary and we feel like being in a maze. We never know which way to go. Perhaps are there chance events which pepper our life as signs of destiny ? Sometimes we feel there are, sometimes we don't. Jung says that psyche and matter are two different aspects of one and the same thing. What is around us can be seen from the inside or from the outside but it is the same reality 


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Message  corneille Jeu 26 Avr - 21:34

Jung always inspires me, some people say That he Was as important as Freud or Lacan in the psychology development and meaning
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Message  MurielB Jeu 26 Avr - 22:00

Jung (1948) disagreed with Freud regarding the role of sexuality. He believed the libido was not just sexual energy, but instead generalized psychic energy.

For Jung the purpose of psychic energy was to motivate the individual in a number of important ways, including spiritually, intellectually, and creatively

Hi Corneille
Tx a lot for writing about Lacan. I don't know him much and I will try to read about him.  At first Jung was close to Freud but then he  disagreed with his  study of the unconscious mind regarding the role of sexuality. I also think that reducing the psychic energy to sexual energy is very narrow. Jung thought that psychic energy helped the individual to develop spiritually, intellectually and creatively and I totally agree with him.
https://www.simplypsychology.org/carl-jung.html


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Message  corneille Jeu 26 Avr - 22:20

Yes of course, i dont know a lot about Jung, just some citations from his books. Lacan Was a psychanalyst if what I emember is correct.


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Message  MurielB Jeu 26 Avr - 22:23

Of course you are welcome if you write a few quotes from Lacan. I'd love to know more about him

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Message  corneille Jeu 26 Avr - 22:26

Excuse me, in english (like in german) we use the word "psychoanalyst" Wink
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Message  MurielB Jeu 26 Avr - 22:31

Tx Corneille for correcting my mistake I will remember the word "psychoanalyst"

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Message  corneille Jeu 26 Avr - 22:37

It Was my mistake Wink
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Message  MurielB Jeu 26 Avr - 22:53

Yes Corneille in a forum we can learn from one another can't we ?

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Message  corneille Jeu 26 Avr - 23:06

Of course, it is the goal !
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Message  MurielB Sam 23 Juin - 22:44

Carl Yung a écrit:Your vision will become clear only when you can look into your own heart. Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes
 

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Message  MurielB Sam 23 Juin - 22:56

Hi everyone
 That quote from Jung is a bit strange isn't it ? Does that mean that what we think about the solid face of the world isn't true; Is it the other way round ? According to Jung it is obvious that the inner world is the solid face of the world. In that sense are we all interconnected ?
Collective unconscious (German: kollektives Unbewusstes), a term coined by Carl Jung, refers to structures of the unconscious mind which are shared among beings of the same species. According to Jung, the human collective unconscious is populated by instincts and by archetypes: universal symbols such as The Great Mother, the Wise Old Man, the Shadow, the Tower, Water, the Tree of Life, and many more.

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Message  CharlesRM Mer 4 Juil - 22:37

Hi Muriel, I think he is saying that what we see in our outer experience is a projection of our psyche. By focusing on the source of our experience rather than its effects we become aware of the process and can influence it. We light a candle in the darkness of our own hearts to see the way.

As the German poet Goethe wrote :

Ach, so viele tausend Menschen kennen, 

Dumpf sich treibend, kaum ihr eigen Herz, 

Schweben zwecklos hin und her und rennen 

Hoffnungslos in unversehnem Schmerz

(Ah ! Tant de milliers d’hommes connaissent à peine
Dans leur agitation obscure, leur propre cœur,
Flottent sans but de çà de là, et soudain affolés
Courent sous l’aiguillon de douleurs imprévues)


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Message  MurielB Mer 4 Juil - 23:10

CharlesRM a écrit:Hi Muriel, I think he is saying that what we see in our outer experience is a projection of our psyche. By focusing on the source of our experience rather than its effects we become aware of the process and can influence it. We light a candle in the darkness of our own hearts to see the way.
Tx for making it clearer. i like your explanation.

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