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Continuous Evolution, again
gerardM Dim 7 Avr - 18:36
Hi everyone,
When I was a teenager, I thought the society in which I was living would stay approximately the same with small changes only:
- I would have a better life than my parents
- I would keep the same job all life long
- science would provide everyone with a better life
- wars would not exist any more anywhere
- etc.
Adults were saying the young generation was becoming awful... I didn't think so: I was happy with my future.
...
Looks like I was pretty wrong, no?
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Re: Continuous Evolution, again
gerardM Dim 7 Avr - 18:42
Hi everyone,
I chose to post this again.
A previous "Contnuous evolution" was started but it went to lots of directions and not the one I was expecting.
What do you think about the changes? How do teenagers behave and act? What are their positive/negative traits (according to you)?
For example, what are the effects of TV, video games, smartphones, Internet...?
I chose to post this again.
A previous "Contnuous evolution" was started but it went to lots of directions and not the one I was expecting.
What do you think about the changes? How do teenagers behave and act? What are their positive/negative traits (according to you)?
For example, what are the effects of TV, video games, smartphones, Internet...?
Dernière édition par gerardM le Dim 7 Avr - 18:54, édité 1 fois (Raison : spelling of effect)
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Re: Continuous Evolution, again
MurielB Dim 7 Avr - 18:43
I Gérard, everyone
I think that humanity is improving but not regularly. There are ups and downs.
I think that humanity is improving but not regularly. There are ups and downs.
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Re: Continuous Evolution, again
gerardM Dim 7 Avr - 18:55
Muriel,
gerardM a écrit:... How do teenagers behave and act? What are their positive/negative traits (according to you)?
For example, what are the effects of TV, video games, smartphones, Internet...?
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Re: Continuous Evolution, again
MurielB Lun 8 Avr - 11:21
Hello Gerard eveyone
Superego doen't exit so much among young people (for instance a young man can live with a young woman without getting married, gay men and women are allowed to get married or to have children etc. ) I think it is a good thing because I belive in freedom of thought and possibility for everyone to express the best of their personality and to choose what is right or wrong according to their beliefs
Anyway we live in a society and it is important to obey certain rules to make it possible. We are in a law-based state. It is difficult to have a good balance between "What I want to do" and "what I have to do" As you know a lot of children lack limits. It is not good for society and not for them either)
The virtual world is very useful ( internet smartphone facebook). I love them
it brings people closer to each other, it gives a quick information to eveyone but it can be dangerous. It separates people from reality and people tend to live "In their heads" (I don't know the English expression) In the past farmers' children used to see animals being killed and knew that Death was irreversible. you can't ressucitate can you as you can in the video games
Anyway I am not young any more and I would like to have young people's view points.
Superego doen't exit so much among young people (for instance a young man can live with a young woman without getting married, gay men and women are allowed to get married or to have children etc. ) I think it is a good thing because I belive in freedom of thought and possibility for everyone to express the best of their personality and to choose what is right or wrong according to their beliefs
Anyway we live in a society and it is important to obey certain rules to make it possible. We are in a law-based state. It is difficult to have a good balance between "What I want to do" and "what I have to do" As you know a lot of children lack limits. It is not good for society and not for them either)
The virtual world is very useful ( internet smartphone facebook). I love them
it brings people closer to each other, it gives a quick information to eveyone but it can be dangerous. It separates people from reality and people tend to live "In their heads" (I don't know the English expression) In the past farmers' children used to see animals being killed and knew that Death was irreversible. you can't ressucitate can you as you can in the video gamesAnyway I am not young any more and I would like to have young people's view points.
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Re: Continuous Evolution, again
gerardM Lun 8 Avr - 16:38
Hi Muriel,
> I would like to have young people's view points.
So, here I am!
As you know, I'm very close to new technologies.
Internet -> I'm on the web all day long; when I'm trekking or busy having to attend meetings, I stay late in front of y computer to catch up with friends and events of the day.
How could we live without Internet?
How could we live without Google? Wikipedia??
I tend to do several things at the same time and I'm less patient: when I've to read a document I didn't chose myself, it's difficult to spend more than 3 minutes (I'm able to read my magazines for hours) and it's similar for letters, I usuallt read the beginning, the middle, teh end, that's all!
Video games -> never!
Sometimes very calm and slow ones like "Solitaire" but no wars, no killings...
Facebook -> I do love. I wrote several times about the advantages of Facebook.
Smartphone -> Absolutely necessary!
A drawback though: due to the news titles that are often truncated on a smartphone screen, I've a tendancy to not read entirely and to imagine the rest of the text with the possibility of being wrong in my guessing.
> I would like to have young people's view points.
So, here I am!
As you know, I'm very close to new technologies.
Internet -> I'm on the web all day long; when I'm trekking or busy having to attend meetings, I stay late in front of y computer to catch up with friends and events of the day.
How could we live without Internet?
How could we live without Google? Wikipedia??
I tend to do several things at the same time and I'm less patient: when I've to read a document I didn't chose myself, it's difficult to spend more than 3 minutes (I'm able to read my magazines for hours) and it's similar for letters, I usuallt read the beginning, the middle, teh end, that's all!
Video games -> never!
Sometimes very calm and slow ones like "Solitaire" but no wars, no killings...
Facebook -> I do love. I wrote several times about the advantages of Facebook.
Smartphone -> Absolutely necessary!
A drawback though: due to the news titles that are often truncated on a smartphone screen, I've a tendancy to not read entirely and to imagine the rest of the text with the possibility of being wrong in my guessing.
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Re: Continuous Evolution, again
MurielB Lun 8 Avr - 16:49
You must be awfully young to be at that point involved in the modern world. your teens ? Just older ? 
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Re: Continuous Evolution, again
gerardM Lun 8 Avr - 17:00
True that, in my family, on Facebook, I meet more great-nephews and great-nieces than siblings, cousins or nephews/nieces.
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Re: Continuous Evolution, again
MurielB Lun 8 Avr - 22:23
you are like Patrick who is pleased to have young ones around him. His are between l and 12 months old for the most part.
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Re: Continuous Evolution, again
gerardM Lun 8 Avr - 22:55
I'm very often with people younger than me and I often forget my age.
Regarding sports, I'm not very prudent
Yesterday, it was the marathon of Paris and I thought that maybe I could do it next year...
For this coming Summer, I'm hesitating between 300 and 500 kilometers on foot (ie 1/3 or 1/2 of Vezelay->St Jean Pied de Port). I'm not sure to stay below 30 km/day as I promised.
Regarding sports, I'm not very prudent
Yesterday, it was the marathon of Paris and I thought that maybe I could do it next year...
For this coming Summer, I'm hesitating between 300 and 500 kilometers on foot (ie 1/3 or 1/2 of Vezelay->St Jean Pied de Port). I'm not sure to stay below 30 km/day as I promised.
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Re: Continuous Evolution, again
MurielB Mar 9 Avr - 8:38
congratulations !gerardM a écrit:
:
For this coming Summer, I'm hesitating between 300 and 500 kilometers on foot (ie 1/3 or 1/2 of Vezelay->St Jean Pied de Port). I'm not sure to stay below 30 km/day as I promised.
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Re: Continuous Evolution, again
Remy Mar 9 Avr - 15:04
Hi
According to a lot of specialists, we are at the beginning of a fantastic revolution, to which teens already belong. Numerical technics are already alive and are going to increase.
At the same time, emergent countries need the participation of developed countries. Globalisation is still a fantastic opportunity for young dynamic people in our countries. At the same time, it can break family links. But, thanks to new technologies, we can keep links even when we live in the antipodes.
Anyway, technology doesn't replace human contacts alive...Our period is tougher than before psychologically speaking. There is much more competition than after the Second World War economic boom. At the same time, we ignore war, we are much better treated, we are shelted by welfare state, we live much longer...
According to a lot of specialists, we are at the beginning of a fantastic revolution, to which teens already belong. Numerical technics are already alive and are going to increase.
At the same time, emergent countries need the participation of developed countries. Globalisation is still a fantastic opportunity for young dynamic people in our countries. At the same time, it can break family links. But, thanks to new technologies, we can keep links even when we live in the antipodes.
Anyway, technology doesn't replace human contacts alive...Our period is tougher than before psychologically speaking. There is much more competition than after the Second World War economic boom. At the same time, we ignore war, we are much better treated, we are shelted by welfare state, we live much longer...
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Re: Continuous Evolution, again
gerardM Mar 9 Avr - 16:23
Hi Muriel, hi everyone,
Don't encourage masochistic people.MurielB a écrit:... congratulations !
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Re: Continuous Evolution, again
gerardM Mar 9 Avr - 20:00
Hi Rémy,
I too
There are revolutions periodically. This one is a big one and I'm happy to participate in it as well.
Which domains do you see in the list Rémy (I mean there's far more than ITC)?
> Anyway, technology doesn't replace human contacts alive
No, Technology doesn't replace human contacts: there's room for both.
> Our period is tougher than before psychologically speaking.
How do seniors feel it?
How do kids feel it?
How do you live it?
> There is much more competition than after the Second World War economic boom.
True.
Is competition good or bad?
> At the same time, we ignore war
Where? Central Europe? Asia? Africa?
> we are much better treated, we are shelted by welfare state
Who is that?
> we live much longer...
Smoking women? People in Fukushima?
In average, yes.
> to which teens already belongRemy a écrit:Hi
According to a lot of specialists, we are at the beginning of a fantastic revolution, to which teens already belong. Numerical technics are already alive and are going to increase.
I too
There are revolutions periodically. This one is a big one and I'm happy to participate in it as well.
Which domains do you see in the list Rémy (I mean there's far more than ITC)?
> Anyway, technology doesn't replace human contacts alive
No, Technology doesn't replace human contacts: there's room for both.
> Our period is tougher than before psychologically speaking.
How do seniors feel it?
How do kids feel it?
How do you live it?
> There is much more competition than after the Second World War economic boom.
True.
Is competition good or bad?
> At the same time, we ignore war
Where? Central Europe? Asia? Africa?
> we are much better treated, we are shelted by welfare state
Who is that?
> we live much longer...
Smoking women? People in Fukushima?
In average, yes.
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Re: Continuous Evolution, again
MurielB Jeu 11 Avr - 22:58
Hello Remy, Gerard
I agree that we are at the beginning of a fantastic evolution. For elderly people (much older than we are ) especially those, like my mother, who had a strict education and an important superego. She can't cope with freedom of thought.
What I like are the cultural interconnexions all over the world.Our homeland is not France nor Europe, it is the world. It would not be possible without Information and communications technology
I agree that we are at the beginning of a fantastic evolution. For elderly people (much older than we are
) especially those, like my mother, who had a strict education and an important superego. She can't cope with freedom of thought. What I like are the cultural interconnexions all over the world.Our homeland is not France nor Europe, it is the world. It would not be possible without Information and communications technology
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Re: Continuous Evolution, again
gerardM Jeu 11 Avr - 23:08
Muriel,
I think your word "interconnexions" has got a spelling mistake...
I guess that evolutions were similar when your mother was 20... new dances were shocking, young people had impolite vocabulary, etc.
I think your word "interconnexions" has got a spelling mistake...
I guess that evolutions were similar when your mother was 20... new dances were shocking, young people had impolite vocabulary, etc.
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Re: Continuous Evolution, again
MurielB Jeu 11 Avr - 23:22
here is the correctiongerardM a écrit:
I think your word "interconnections" has got a spelling mistake...
.
I mean that we have a lot of contacts with different cultures, different ways of thinking. Television allows us to know what 's happening in different parts of the world. we can read books, papers, have a look on internet. My mother was not allowed to read zola for instance. It's unbelivable but it is true. She was in a closed world.
Dernière édition par MurielB le Ven 12 Avr - 7:13, édité 2 fois
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Re: Continuous Evolution, again
MurielB Ven 12 Avr - 7:06
I had to look up "interconnections" in the dictionnary this morning ! I was too tired yesterday ! 
Dernière édition par MurielB le Ven 12 Avr - 9:15, édité 2 fois
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Re: Continuous Evolution, again
MurielB Ven 12 Avr - 8:41
Intercultural relationship is exciting and draws people closer to one another but globalization also generates mutinational companies whose aim is to make profit. They always pull out to relocate in a country where they can make a greater profit. All that generates unemployment in countries where labour cost is highGlobalization describes the interplay across cultures of macro-social forces. These forces include religion, politics, and economics.
Of course globalization brings about good things and bad things. I would just like to see a continuation of openness, a continuation of open-mindendess, a continuation of understanding people of different races and different cultures
Dernière édition par MurielB le Ven 12 Avr - 22:55, édité 3 fois
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To-day girls think differently !
MurielB Ven 12 Avr - 12:12
Hello everyone !
Girls think diffently now. One day i said to my grand child who had to put off weight (7 years old).
"you have to watch your figure if you want to become a princess"
She answered
" I don't want to become a princess, I want to become an advenuress".
Back in the 40s Disney film heroines like snowwhite had to be rescued, now the girl in "The Princess and and the frog" http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/The_Princess_and_the_Frog for instance is no longer to be rescued, she is part of the rescue operation.
Girls think diffently now. One day i said to my grand child who had to put off weight (7 years old).
"you have to watch your figure if you want to become a princess"
She answered
" I don't want to become a princess, I want to become an advenuress".
Back in the 40s Disney film heroines like snowwhite had to be rescued, now the girl in "The Princess and and the frog" http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/The_Princess_and_the_Frog for instance is no longer to be rescued, she is part of the rescue operation.
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Re: Continuous Evolution, again
gerardM Ven 12 Avr - 21:17
and...MurielB a écrit:I had to look up "interconnections" in the dictionnary this morning ! I was too tired yesterday !
What did you find?
I forgot to check but as an IT-guy, it's a word I'm used to writing and reading.
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Re: Continuous Evolution, again
gerardM Ven 12 Avr - 21:29
Hi Muriel,
There's no spelling in "interconnections"!!
What I wrote is
Thanks... but I never wrote this, did I?gerardM a écrit:
I think your word "interconnections" has got a spelling mistake...
.
There's no spelling in "interconnections"!!
What I wrote is
gerardM a écrit:I think your word "interconnexions" has got a spelling mistake...
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Re: Continuous Evolution, again
gerardM Ven 12 Avr - 21:38
Muriel,
Evolution is continuous and every generation is frightened by what will occur for their children.
...
These children don't worry because it's their environment and they learn how to cope with it: AIDS, unemployment, violence, computing, Mac Donald's... they can do with... they will be frightened by their children's world :lol:s
That well what I wrote:MurielB a écrit:... My mother was not allowed to read zola for instance. It's unbelivable but it is true. She was in a closed world.
I guess that evolutions were similar when your mother was 20...
Evolution is continuous and every generation is frightened by what will occur for their children.
...
These children don't worry because it's their environment and they learn how to cope with it: AIDS, unemployment, violence, computing, Mac Donald's... they can do with... they will be frightened by their children's world :lol:s
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Re: Continuous Evolution, again
MurielB Ven 12 Avr - 21:53
My mother always says "I was like my grand mother but there is a big gap between me and my grand children" At certain times of our history evolution goes faster I think.
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Re: Continuous Evolution, again
gerardM Ven 12 Avr - 21:56
Muriel,
Before globalization, companies were placed inside national boarders and mainly in front of their local laws.
Since globalization, companies are in the wild world, in direct competition with all of the companies in the world. They won't ever be protected by their government (it's forbidden - in addition, there is no government in the wild world) and either they fight (making more profits) or they disappear.
Do these words "openness", "open-mindendess" exist?
I'm afraid "each other" is misused here.MurielB a écrit:Intercultural relationship is exciting and draws people closer to each other
It's written in our "Code du Commerce": any "société" is created to make profits. Globalization is only an extended opportunity to make more profits.but globalization also generates mutinational companies whose aim is to make profit.
Before globalization, companies were placed inside national boarders and mainly in front of their local laws.
Since globalization, companies are in the wild world, in direct competition with all of the companies in the world. They won't ever be protected by their government (it's forbidden - in addition, there is no government in the wild world) and either they fight (making more profits) or they disappear.
Yes, right: it's globalization.They always pull out to relocate in a country where they can make a greater profit. All that generates unemployment in countries where labour cost is high
Did you look into your dictionary?... I would just like to see a continuation of openness, a continuation of open-mindendess...
Do these words "openness", "open-mindendess" exist?
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